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A professor at George Washington University is teaching a course called 'Get a Life!: ‘Shippers, Slashers, and Other Media Fans'. As part of this course, students "will also become a participant-observer of an internet fan fiction community (e.g., Full Metal Alchemist or Lord of the Rings)"
While it sounds as if this course is addressing some issues I personally find fascinating, I don't know if I think this is such a great idea, an influx of people joining fandoms just to study them without having any love for them. Especially because of the attitude reflected in the course description:
"And what about those troublesome fans who use some preexisting story as the springboard for their own stories or art: are they authors in their own right, or thieves, or pathetic parasites? How do we compare a fan novella drawing on characters from the Harry Potter universe to such a work as Jean Rhys's critically-acclaimed Wide Sargasso Sea, which rewords the characters of Jane Eyre? These questions will lead us to larger philosophical mysteries, such as the line between knock-off and clever adaptation, or between copyright violation, plagiarism, and scholarly citation. "
So I find this a little alarming. What do you all think?
While it sounds as if this course is addressing some issues I personally find fascinating, I don't know if I think this is such a great idea, an influx of people joining fandoms just to study them without having any love for them. Especially because of the attitude reflected in the course description:
"And what about those troublesome fans who use some preexisting story as the springboard for their own stories or art: are they authors in their own right, or thieves, or pathetic parasites? How do we compare a fan novella drawing on characters from the Harry Potter universe to such a work as Jean Rhys's critically-acclaimed Wide Sargasso Sea, which rewords the characters of Jane Eyre? These questions will lead us to larger philosophical mysteries, such as the line between knock-off and clever adaptation, or between copyright violation, plagiarism, and scholarly citation. "
So I find this a little alarming. What do you all think?
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Date: 2005-10-08 08:52 pm (UTC)And besides, she's run the course before and nobody even noticed...
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Date: 2005-10-08 10:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-08 08:59 pm (UTC)(Heee! Lee Goldburg discovered the existence of Smurf Fanfiction of ff.net and is gleefully using it to prove that fanfiction sucks! Uh. Lee. Hon.)
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Date: 2005-10-09 11:04 am (UTC)I'll not find you the link.
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Date: 2005-10-09 02:28 pm (UTC)Did you find the one by IIRC anamuensuis1 (sp?) That was the one I really liked.
I can find the link for you, I think, if you would like.
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Date: 2005-10-09 06:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-09 06:20 pm (UTC)I found myself rereading amanuensis1's Gill/Nemo fic today. And then I read the comments again, and was bitten by a Scar/Simba bunny. ARGH.
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Date: 2005-10-08 09:13 pm (UTC)It does sound alarming, and the students sound as though they have the potential to be really irritating.
But... they might not be. And they might be converted; if I had to do this, I'd pick something I already liked so I'd know what fen were talking about.
Of course, I say that already being a member of fandom, so that probably colors my view.
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Date: 2005-10-08 09:39 pm (UTC)Not to mention books like, "Cosette," "Grendel," "Scarlett," or the "Wind in the Willows" sequels. It's the same principal.
Musicians write variations on themes by other composers...painters do renderings of the works of the masters...choreographers re-create the styles of people like Jerome Robbins. Writers are the only artists who don't recognize some form of direct derivative creation as a part of the creative process.
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Date: 2005-10-08 09:49 pm (UTC)And Scarlett was published fanfic that wasn't *nearly* as good as the original. I liked the book, but... Rhett, especially with the scene where he and Scarlett have sex after they nearly died, just was *not* Rhett.
There were bits I greatly enjoyed of it, though. Overall, I liked the book.
Well. Writers don't *obviously* recognize direct derivative. At least, most don't.
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Date: 2005-10-09 08:51 am (UTC)You're always going to have self-important critics who want to blast everything they see. I've seen this in every kind of writing group or assembly. Unfortunately, some of them might go on to become published critics and live off snark for their livelihoods. Nothing we can do about that, except not read their reviews! But I think the fandom is fascinating, many of the people extremely talented and witty, and it might pose an easier transition from shy writers writing for their journals to the larger world, because of the anonymity allowed by public blogs. So my vote is (not having read the full descripion, just your entry): interesting!
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Date: 2005-10-09 09:28 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-10-09 04:50 pm (UTC)who was it, Aristotle or Plato who said "a life too closely examined isn't worth living" ??.
Well, fan-dom too closely examined isn't either...I say either run, follow, or get the hell out of the way...
btw...I still follow your LJ...never get around to commentingm buyt love your writing...
Hope you are well.. I never made it to East Coast this past autumn..but will definitely by next autumn..
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Date: 2005-10-10 04:03 pm (UTC)Mostly, I think, I just don't like being the one (one of the ones) on the microscope slide, with uninvolved academics going, "Oh look!"
(How devoted can fans be to their chosen topic, without provoking concern or contempt? ::looks suspicious:: This has me waiting for someone to deliberately provoke a flame war or some serious wank. I'd be more worried about it if it was sociology, but still.)