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President Obama's budget would eliminate funding for abstinence-only sex ed. Well, good! No more funding for textbooks and programs that teach 'slut-shaming' and that victims of date rape are to blame for having been assaulted. Maybe some actual sex education can replace this stuff.

So, Why Is the Penis Shaped Like That? (via [livejournal.com profile] redaxe) was not only interesting but gave me an idea.

[This quotation contains a further quotation set off in bold.]

Gallup and Burch also leave us with a very intriguing hypothetical question. “Is it possible (short of artificial insemination),” they ask, “for a woman to become pregnant by a man she never had sex with? We think the answer is ‘yes.’” It’s a tricky run to wrap your head around, but basically Gallup and Birch say that semen displacement theory predicts that this is possible in the following way. I’ve taken the liberty of editing this for clarity. Also note that the scenario is especially relevant to uncircumcised men.

If “Josh” were to have sex with “Kate” who recently had sex with “Mike,” in the process of thrusting his penis back and forth in her vagina, some of Mike’s semen would be forced under Josh’s frenulum, collect behind his coronal ridge, and displaced from the area proximate to the cervix. After Josh ejaculates and substitutes his semen for that of the other male, as he withdraws from the vagina some of Mike’s semen will still be present on the shaft of his penis and behind his coronal ridge. As his erection subsides the glans will withdraw under the foreskin, raising the possibility that some of Mike’s semen could be captured underneath the foreskin and behind the coronal ridge in the process. Were Josh to then have sex with “Amy” several hours later, it is possible that some of the displaced semen from Mike would still be present under his foreskin and thus may be unwittingly transmitted to Amy who, in turn, could then be impregnated by Mike’s sperm.


So, you know how it is generally understood that a certain number of children are being raised by men who aren't their biological fathers but don't know it, hereafter referred to as 'misattributed paternity'? One common statistic is 10% in many Western countries. (Found in a quotation at the bottom of the linked article, and when finding a link for that statement I had to trawl through some awfully mucky misogyny before I landed on this sensible article. Urgh.) People generally explain this entirely by envisioning women as sleeping around (cue the amateur sociobiology!), but I find myself wondering about the quoted scenario. In a world of well over six billion people, maybe at least one was concieved thusly.

At any rate, it could be an interesting story...

Date: 2009-05-08 04:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ceo
This is reminding me of one of my favorite logic puzzles, which posits two men, two women and two condoms, and asks how both men can have PIV sex with both women without any sharing of bodily fluids.

Date: 2009-05-08 04:58 pm (UTC)
ckd: small blue foam shark (Default)
From: [personal profile] ckd
Isaac Asimov reformulated it as three doctors, one patient, and only two sets of gloves...with a contagious but asymptomatic disease possibly present in any of them.

Not so ew, but logically equivalent.

Date: 2009-05-08 06:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
Does it involve one person wearing two sets at once?

Date: 2009-05-08 07:02 pm (UTC)
ckd: small blue foam shark (Default)
From: [personal profile] ckd
Yeah; it has to, because you have 4 people and only 4 surfaces.

Date: 2009-05-08 07:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
I can't figure it out.

Date: 2009-05-08 07:33 pm (UTC)
ckd: small blue foam shark (Default)
From: [personal profile] ckd
Two sets of gloves, A and B. Each has an "inside" and an "outside", but they can be turned inside out. (There's an assumption here that you can put them on/take them off without really "touching" any possibly infected surfaces.)

Doctor 1 wears both sets, A on the inside and B on the outside. A-inside is now contaminated by Dr. 1, and B-outside by the patient. A-outside and B-inside are still clean.

Doctor 2 wears set B, contaminating B-inside. B-outside is still contaminated by the patient, but it's only touching the patient.

Doctor 3 turns set A inside out, putting them on first before putting on set B. He's only touching A-outside, which is clean; A-inside and B-inside are contaminating each other, but that doesn't matter. The patient is still only touching B-outside.

Date: 2009-05-08 08:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
The bit I can't manage is turning them inside out without touching a touched surface. The rest is do-able.

Date: 2009-05-08 08:30 pm (UTC)
ckd: small blue foam shark (Default)
From: [personal profile] ckd
Realistically, you can't. That's what makes it a logic puzzle and not a practical guide to limited-resource surgery logistics. (I suppose you could do something tricky with a long, disposable probe and some kind of gripping tool...you could use the probe to push the fingers inside-out perhaps.)

Date: 2009-05-08 10:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-09 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dan-ad-nauseam.livejournal.com
I thought that was by Gardner, but published in Asimov's.

Date: 2009-05-09 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchhiker.livejournal.com
gardner in scientific american, though asimov's might have reprinted it.

Date: 2009-05-08 05:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sethg
You know how some high-tech employers, in their job interviews, ask these questions like "why are manhole covers round?" and "about how many toothbrushes are in Los Angeles?"

I think I'll ask this question the next time someone comes to my company for a job interview.

NOT.

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