I think part of it is a constraint of genre. Miller's Sin City was, as near as I can figure it, an attempt at doing a modern hard-boiled noir series, and, even when updating it, you bring along with it certain tropes of the genre. This doesn't, of course, invalidate any of your objections to it...I imagine you'd feel the same way about the stories written by Marlowe and Hammitt.
Dashiell Hammett, you mean, as in the author of The Thin Man and its sequels? With Nick and Nora?
Nora has more agency than I do, and she's fictional!
I've seen this comment in many discussions on the movie, actually, that what those of us with qualms about it are reacting to is the genre. I'm not a noir *buff*, but I enjoy a good noir every so often, and have seen many with dynamic female characters, and I enjoy seediness (and sex!) so that didn't offend me. No, I really think it *is* the way Frank Miller writes about women; I remember this feeling of unease from when I read The Dark Knight Returns. There's something kind of weird there.
BTW, it's really good to see you posting more again. :)
*blush* Thanks. I doubt I'll ever return to my previous levels of babbling, but here I am.
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Date: 2005-04-07 03:45 pm (UTC)I think part of it is a constraint of genre. Miller's Sin City was, as near as I can figure it, an attempt at doing a modern hard-boiled noir series, and, even when updating it, you bring along with it certain tropes of the genre. This doesn't, of course, invalidate any of your objections to it...I imagine you'd feel the same way about the stories written by Marlowe and Hammitt.
Dashiell Hammett, you mean, as in the author of The Thin Man and its sequels? With Nick and Nora?
Nora has more agency than I do, and she's fictional!
I've seen this comment in many discussions on the movie, actually, that what those of us with qualms about it are reacting to is the genre. I'm not a noir *buff*, but I enjoy a good noir every so often, and have seen many with dynamic female characters, and I enjoy seediness (and sex!) so that didn't offend me. No, I really think it *is* the way Frank Miller writes about women; I remember this feeling of unease from when I read The Dark Knight Returns. There's something kind of weird there.
BTW, it's really good to see you posting more again. :)
*blush* Thanks. I doubt I'll ever return to my previous levels of babbling, but here I am.