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browngirl ([personal profile] browngirl) wrote2008-04-11 08:34 am

Fuck Yeah, They're Awesome.

So, some time ago, [livejournal.com profile] dsudis wrote an entry that began, "So I was adding some new interests to my LJ profile ... and found myself feeling defensive every time I typed a female name, thinking, basically, FUCK YOU, SHE'S AWESOME, because I felt as if someone somewhere was going to be criticizing my love for them."

That really resonated with me, because... female characters have some particular hurdles to surmount. They're dismissed as unsuitable protagonists for fictional works expected to appeal to boys and men, and therefore expected to make 'real' money. They're accused of being Canon Mary Sues when they have one milligram of agency and lauded entirely for their sexiness when they don't. Best of all, their fans are often told we like them just because they're female, that nothing else about them matters to us (or obviously we wouldn't bother to like female characters). (And then there's what real-life women in the public eye undergo...)

I almost didn't post this, because a big all-caps, "FUCK YEAH, THEY'RE AWESOME" felt like shouting, like being unladylike. (And yes, I compromised with my sense of decorum -- I went with "yeah" instead of "you" and didn't put caps in my title.) But the point is to stand up, and have something to say, and not be cowed.

So here are ten fictional characters of whom I wholeheartedly say, fuck yeah, these women are awesome. Which isn't saying that everyone is required to like them, but that not liking them is not a reason to dismiss them as universally worthless, and that I'm not going to be ashamed of liking them, at all.

Stephanie Brown
Koriand'r
Rosie Cotton Gamgee
Arwen Undomiel
Amita Ramanujan
Martha Jones
Samantha Carter
Inara Serra
Ekaterin Vorkosigan
Cordelia Naismith Vorkosigan

[identity profile] rodneyscat.livejournal.com 2008-04-11 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow... Only this morning I was commenting to someone on 'Life on Mars', and felt this weird and annoying hesitation when I typed the name Annie in addition to Sam and Gene as characters I've soon learned to love in this series.

I'm going to treat this as a meme of sort and put together a list of my own in my journal. I think I'm going to use caps even (but I'm sticking with your change from 'you' to 'yeah', because that's more my style too :D )

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It was intended as a meme, so I'm really glad you did it as one. And I loved your list, and love your icon. *beams at you*
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[personal profile] dreamflower 2008-04-11 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I quite frankly and honestly *do not understand* the disdain for a character because she's female. I've seen the attitude, and I find it completely puzzling--it makes no sense at all.

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I could write a little sociological essay about internalized misogyny, but I would just depress both of us. I'd rather hug you. *huggle*

[personal profile] papervolcano 2008-04-11 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
YES.

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Woot!

(I miss my Kory icon. But Steph definetely fits this, she does.)
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[personal profile] ilyena_sylph 2008-04-11 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Question?

Who is Amita Ramanujan?

I am very curious, because I know the rest of your list fairly well.
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[personal profile] gingicat 2008-04-11 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
She is the *other* amazing gorgeous mathematician on Numb3rs.
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[personal profile] ilyena_sylph 2008-04-11 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! Okay! I do kind-of know her, but I quit watching Numb3rs a wile back... but yes. She is definitely awesome.
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[personal profile] dreamflower 2008-04-11 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
By the way, have you seen this?
[livejournal.com profile] femgenficathon

*tempted*

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, if I had time, I would *so* be writing for that!

[identity profile] cat-latin.livejournal.com 2008-04-13 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
The only way I can think of to respond to this is to dance a little and show you ten of mine:
Granny Weatherwax
Goldberry
Entwives
Rose Tyler
River Tam
Vala Mal Doran
Despair, of the Endless
Captain Janeway
Toronga Leela
Mina Harker
:-)

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
*dances with you* I love your list!

[identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com 2008-04-14 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
My list? Well, I adore good kid's books, so you may find a theme here...

From the Land of Oz (a fantasy world loaded with strong females --no doubt because L. Frank Baum's mother was a suffragette): Dorothy Gale, Princess Ozma, Glinda the Sorceress, the Good Witch of the North, Tiny Trot, Betsy Bobbin, General Jinjur, Scraps the Patchwork Girl
The Little Engine That Could (read the original Watty Piper tale from 1938 -- the engine is called "she"!)
Weyrwoman Lessa of Ruatha Hold (Anne McCaffrey's Dragonrider books) -- and Ramoth her queen dragon.
Menolly the bard, same source
Eowyn ("I am no man!") of Rohan
The Little Red Hen (a single mother who did all the work with no help from the freeloaders)
Dab-Dab the Duck from the Dr. Doolittle books (the good Dr.'s housekeeper)
Mrs. Hudson from the Sherlock Holmes tales
Irene Adler, the same.

Those are just off the top of my head.

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
There is definetely a theme, and it is a theme of AWESOMENESS.

Also, I live with two small people, so recs for good kids' books are very useful!

[identity profile] panda-pooka.livejournal.com 2008-04-14 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell Yeah! I totally agree with you on your attitude and your list (the ones I know) and I have to say YES! To the others above me who've listed their own favs, again-- the ones I recognize just ROCK!

In putting down the first ten of my favorite ladies off the top of my head, I see that some of my choices echo others', but only because great minds think alike *grin*

Eddie McCandry (War for the Oaks)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld Series)
Willow Rosenburg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Lydia Asher (Traveling With The Dead)
Rose Tyler (Dr. Who)
Martha Jones (Dr. Who)
Toshiko Sato (Torchwood)
Alice (Resident Evil)
Harimad Crewe (The Blue Sword)
Mrs. Hudson (Sherlock Holmes)
Edited 2008-04-14 18:04 (UTC)

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
War for the Oaks! Oh, did I love that book. Thank you for this awesome list, and especially for reminding me of Ms. Bull's awesome novel!

[identity profile] ash-in-your-eye.livejournal.com 2008-04-15 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I came upon Bujold's books shortly before 'Memory' came out. I picked up a copy of 'Codelia's Honor' by pure chance. After I read that, I read everything by Bujold I could get my hands on. I can honestly admit that when I realised the switch to Miles as the main character was permenant, I was pissed for a book and a half. Don't get me wrong, I like him as a character. A lot. But I liked his mom better.

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
*nod* I hear you. Miles is wonderful, but Cordelia blew me away!
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[personal profile] danae_b 2008-04-17 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yesss.

[identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com 2008-04-18 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
*beams at you very much*