Okay, looking at it just from a rhetoric standpoint, everything is hinging on how you and the person who wrote that statement each define "objectification".
Good point. If one person means "a fruit" and another means "a color" when they're discussing the term "orange" they may both end up confused. In context, though, I think he was using the commonly held meaning of objectification, to make a person into an object, with the attendant connotations of *reducing* them to an object. So I feel justified in being slightly disparaging of him.
I think it also says a lot about the guys' self-esteem if they're claiming the only way the species would continue is if they raped the surviving women. If they believe no women could ever willingly choose them, then they do definitely have a problem.
Oh, that was from another discussion, from awhile ago, but a similarly fun one.
Actually, that's something I'd love to see more of in comics -- women choosing to love men and men feeling loved and able to love in return. Confidence in one's lovability is sexy.
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Good point. If one person means "a fruit" and another means "a color" when they're discussing the term "orange" they may both end up confused. In context, though, I think he was using the commonly held meaning of objectification, to make a person into an object, with the attendant connotations of *reducing* them to an object. So I feel justified in being slightly disparaging of him.
I think it also says a lot about the guys' self-esteem if they're claiming the only way the species would continue is if they raped the surviving women. If they believe no women could ever willingly choose them, then they do definitely have a problem.
Oh, that was from another discussion, from awhile ago, but a similarly fun one.
Actually, that's something I'd love to see more of in comics -- women choosing to love men and men feeling loved and able to love in return. Confidence in one's lovability is sexy.
AMEN!