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The gift: [livejournal.com profile] princesswitch wrote an extremely nifty and *not* anti-Christian column on the annoyance of certain Evangelists' efforts to proselytize to GLBT people, which has, as a bonus, a really cool reply from another person. I just wanted to share that with you all.

The question: Remember the guy in Ohio whose art gallery I was in? He wants me to draw scenes of sacrifice for August's exhibit. My poor mind is nearly blank; all I can think of is Abraham and Isaac, and I don't want to draw that one. Can anyone give me ideas on scenes of [human] sacrifice from religious writings or history that would work well coming from my pen? Ones featuring women would be a plus (I draw women better than I draw men).

Date: 2003-06-26 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teddywolf.livejournal.com
Has to be human sacrifice, huh?

Date: 2003-06-26 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
Well, considering that you thought the bunny I drew was a *weasel*, I think I should stick with people for this assignment. :)

Date: 2003-06-26 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teddywolf.livejournal.com
"Little Weasel Frou Frou was hopping through the tundra
Picking up the field snakes and BOPping them on the head..."

Date: 2003-06-26 10:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Iphigenia at Aulis.

Date: 2003-06-26 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
*smacks forhead* Augh! Thank you!

Date: 2003-06-26 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koshmom.livejournal.com
Weren't there Mayan/Incan sacrifices into volcanoes (of virgin women?)
then there's the witch trials, which weren't sacrifice, but...
Let's see...xtians were tossed "to the lions" in ancient rome.
Let us not forget to include Christ on the cross, which once again isn't quite sacrifice, unless you want to say he sacrificed himself because he didn't defend himself. more biblical stuff could be those two women who went into their father's tent to have sex with him to give him a son, don't remember their names, but that's a sacrifice (of virginity?) of sorts.

Literature has King Kong (remember they tied Fay Wraye to the stand outside of the confines of the walled in city?)

Date: 2003-06-26 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ororo.livejournal.com
First one that comes to mind is Agamemnon sacraficing Iphigenia, his daughter before he goes off to conquer Troy.

Still biblical:

Date: 2003-06-26 10:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] camwyn
Book of Judges. Jephtha the judge of ancient Israel vows to God that if God grants him victory (I think) he'll sacrifice to God the first thing that he sees when he gets home.

So his daughter comes out to greet Dad.

The daughter got a month of time in the mountains to mourn all the things she'd be missing, and then Dad was permitted to sacrifice her. Personally, I think the High Priest of the time needed a thumping, *bad*, but it's a human sacrifice from a historical religious writing.

Re: Still biblical:

Date: 2003-06-26 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmemory.livejournal.com
Yeah, this is the story I was going to suggest too.

Re: Still biblical:

Date: 2003-06-29 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
So I drew this, and Iphigenia, and Andromeda&Perseus. :) Thank'ee. :D

A.

Date: 2003-06-26 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sculpin.livejournal.com
Besides Iphigenia, the first ones to come to mind are Andromeda chained to her rock, Inanna on the hook during her descent into the underworld, and the sacrifice of young people to the Minotaur.

Date: 2003-06-26 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynt.livejournal.com
Does it have to be sacrificing a human life to please God, or would a story like Rachael and Leah, or Penelope at her loom, work for you?

Date: 2003-06-26 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sculpin.livejournal.com
Or, for that matter, the story of Polycrates and his ring?

Date: 2003-06-26 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnad.livejournal.com
Right now in my MesoAmerican class we are talking about the Aztec sacrifices to the Sun God, Huitzilopochtli. (pronounced: we-tsee-lo-poach-tlee) Every night a strong warrior was sacrificed, in order to give the Sun God the strength to rise the next morning.

They would take the warrior to the top of the temple pyramid, rip out his heart and push the body down the stairs. It is unclear what would happen beyond that since the only remains that have been found were the skulls, kept on special racks in a special temple like place.

Also they sacrificed infants because it was thought that their tears would bring rain.

Thanks for the plug!

Date: 2003-06-26 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princesswitch.livejournal.com
I wish I could help you, but my ideas are the same as everyone else's. When I think "sacrifice", I think plants, food, cut flowers, and the occasional chicken. I immediately thought a picture of an ancestral altar would be pretty. But sometimes "pretty" just won't cut it, huh?

Anyway, thank you so much for promoting me and my work. I had to keep reminding myself, "My beef is with homophobes who don't respect my humanity and intelligence, **not** Christians!" I see that at least two people came over because of your plug! Cool, and welcome!

When you do that painting, post it, and I'll do the same for you...

Date: 2003-06-26 01:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cellio
Thanks for a fantastic link!

Sacrifices: nothing new to offer, sadly; I thought of the same things others have already suggested (particularly Aztecs, Agamemnon, and Yephta).

Date: 2003-06-26 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com
I think I want to se your drawing of Andromeda chained to the rock awaiting the monster most of any of these options here suggested.

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